HANSON – The Select Board on Tuesday, June 25 reviewed goals for themselves and Town Administrator Lisa Green for fiscal 2025, suggesting updates and edits which they wanted to see ready for further discussion at the board’s July 23 meeting.
Green’s work, along with Administrative Assistant Lynn McDowell is a “good start,” Chair Laura FitzGerald-Kemmett said, noting there is still some prioritizing and editing to do.
Those goals include the areas of governance: union negotiations, Town Meeting communication plans, coordination with other boards they appoint on priorities, modernizing and standardizing of human resources processes and policies. They also aim to revise and amend town policies and bylaws, to ensure they are clear, concise and consistent, prepare a handbook for town boards and committee volunteers, holding monthly inspectors’ meetings to streamline application processes for permit applications, identifying goals of town departments and reviewing progress with the town administrator at the beginning and end of the fiscal year, as well as the recruitment for and direction of the Recreation Commission, to coordinate with other committees.
The goals also would have the board update the town’s master plan.
Budgeting goals include the continued preparation of reimbursement requests for federal CARES Act and ARPA funds through the Plymouth County Commissioners, development of a “robust unified town-wide communications plan,” and follow through on existing grants while exploring other grant opportunities.
They should also plan to explore new ways to increase revenue, according to the goals plan, soliciting ideas from employees and citizens, examining ambulance billing collections, green communities grants, sale of remaining tax title properties and consideration of an increase in local meals taxes to 1 percent.
Where economic development is concerned, the goals include drafting an outdoor dining with alcohol policy, LED streetlight conversion, and support of the economic development of Main Street.
“Some of these are a little loose,” said FitzGerald-Kemmett. “I think we need to tighten them up a bit, I get where you’re going, but I think we need to be a little bit more specific.”
There were also recommendations from Green that the board improve communication with stakeholders by developing a user-friendly website, holding quarterly meetings with the Finance Committee chair, WHRSD and Select Board representatives, improving the workplace environment through employee engagement as well as continuing to improve information sharing with the public in order to increase attendance at town meetings and membership on public boards and committees.
Goals for town-wide improvements include a digital record system, meet with senior center and library about meeting each of their needs through the current library with improvements or a development plan for the Maquan property as well as monitoring the long-term recreational use of Hanson’s ponds and a complete comprehensive building needs assessment and hosting visioning sessions and explore how recreation programs are managed, as well as continuing strategic planning retreats at Camp Kiwanee.
“I think we have a little cleaning up on this to do,” FitzGerald-Kemmett said. “It’s a good start, but it’s everything and the kitchen sink, so we’ve got to prioritize and, maybe, winnow this down a little bit.”
Member Joe Weeks, for example, said he is really passionate about establishing policies and procedures.
“It’s not jumping out at me and I don’t want it to get lost,” he said. “I don’t know where it sits on that.”
FitzGerald-Kemmett asked McDowell to add development of personnel policies and procedures manual to the town administrator’s goals.
“It’s not ‘speak now or forever hold your peace,’ this is the first pass at it,” FitzGerald-Kemmett said. “There’s a little bit of redundancy – the wording could be tightened up a little bit.”
Vice Chair Ann Rein volunteered to work with McDowell on that.
“We just have to rearrange some stuff,” Rein said, adding that work should be done by the Tuesday, July 23 meeting.
Gamache’s assessment: Time to retire
HANSON – The Select Board gave a reluctant and bittersweet farewell to Assessor Lee Gamache, who retired on Friday, June 28.
“The bad news is Lee Gamache is retiring, the good news is Lee is so amazing that she has, for years been working at developing somebody who could be her replacement and we’re fortunate enough that the Board of Assessors took a vote to appoint Denise Alexander,” said Select Board Chair Laura FitzGerald-Kemmett.
“I think this is a wonderful appointment and I really look forward to working with Denise in the future,” said Town Administrator Lisa Green.
The Select Board does not appoint the lead town assessor, that is voted by the Board of Assessors, but to recognize Alexander in that role.
“We’ve got to know you over the years,” FitzGerald-Kemmett said to Alexander. “We’re thrilled – you’re willing and able, more than able, to step into those shoes and we look forward to working with you and thank you for stepping up. Congratulations!”
Alexander said she wanted the townspeople know that she has been an accredited assessor since 2017 and has been in the assessment field for 14 years.
“I’ve been working in Hanson and I love this town,” she said. “I feel like it’s my town. … I’m going to miss Lee, but I’m real excited to take on this job.”
“Please let Ms. Green know if there’s anything our office can do to support you,” FitzGerald-Kemmett said.
Dad’s way to celebrate the 4th of July
By Linda Ibbitson Hurd
Special to the Express
Nobody loved a parade and the Fourth of July more than our dad. For quite a few years the routine in our family was to spend the day and evening in Duxbury. First at the parade, then on to the beach and end the day at the bonfire that dad also loved.
The four of us kids would wake up on Fourth of July morning to dad loading the car while whistling “Yankee Doodle Dandy.” He always tucked a nice big watermelon in the trunk as well. Mom would be filling the cooler with our favorite sandwiches and always packed a big dish of potato salad. Lemon rinds were all over the counter from the lemonade she had made, and the container was filled to the brim.
My brother, two sisters and I would get dressed, wearing our bathing suits under our clothes and following mom’s orders to bring our beach jackets, which all matched including our brother’s, made out of white Terry cloth trimmed with red and each one had a hood.
By the time our little sister Barb was 5, she spent the time before we left for the parade running around our neighborhood to each house to make sure everyone was going and always talked one of us into going with her. Her last stop was at the Obillo’s to make sure Dan, who owned and ran the Barber Shop on Elm Street, was going to remember to bring the peanuts all the kids loved.
The parade didn’t disappoint. There were as many people sitting as there were standing along both sides of the street. Fences were donned in red, white and blue bunting with flags as far as the eye could see. We watched the band coming up behind the Drum majorettes while they played our National Anthem. I was 14 that summer in 1961 and as I joined in the singing, my emotions surprised me; I felt so proud of our Country.
The parade resumed with the usual protocol of town and state officials, police and fire vehicles with sirens on and military vehicles. Clowns walked amidst the festivities throwing candy out to all the kids. When a big eighteen-wheeler truck pulling a low-bed trailer that carried a jazz band passed through playing “Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy of Company B,” the crowd cheered! Next came unicycle riders, baton twirlers, horses and riders, Girl and Boy Scouts and a baseball team. Our dad was Scottish, and when I heard bagpipes and saw a Scottish band, I knew it would bring a tear to his eye, it was one of the few things that did. When the antique cars and trucks finally appeared, dad was all excited. He knew the make, model and year of each, some bringing back memories which he would ask our neighbor Tom Brine and our mom if they remembered too. I liked all the antique vehicles and loved the sounds of all their different horns.
Once the parade was over, we headed for the beach. My brother Dave and sister Barb stayed on the bay side with some of our neighbors where the horseshoe crabs were and the water was warmer. My sister Penny and I stayed on the main beach. Our floats back then were inner tubes from car and truck tires that my dad and uncles saved for us kids to use when we went swimming. Penny and I rode the ocean waves with kids from our neighborhood and played in the surf. I had the bigger inner tube, which I promised Penny I’d let her have a turn using – at some point.
When we got hungry, us kids were sitting on blankets eating and watching our parents. They were in and out of the water, swimming, splashing, laughing and playing catch with a red rubber ball my dad had brought, which bopped our mom off the head at one point, making us all laugh. It was nice to see them all having fun.
After we ate, I picked up my inner tube heading for the water when Penny started harping on me to let her use it. I said “later” and went in the water. She complained to mom and the next thing I knew; dad was telling me to put the tube up near the blanket and come walk with him. Uh-oh, I thought, I’m in for it. As we walked along the beach he told me a story.
“You remember grandpa Straight and his greenhouses, don’t you?”
I nodded yes. (He was my great grandad; I missed him terribly)
“When I was a little older than you he asked me if I’d move some clay pots for him so he could get his flowers ready to sell and I told him I would. Instead, the day I was supposed to help him I took off with my friends and didn’t even call to tell him. I figured I’d just show up the next day. When I got there he was very stern with me stating, ‘you didn’t keep your word.’ I didn’t know what to say and then he said, ‘Your word is your contract, that’s one of the things I live by.’ From that day on, I realized how important it was to keep my word, no matter what the promise.”
I realized what dad was trying to teach me and as I grew up, it became one of the best things I was taught and something I’ve strived to do. I kept my promise to Penny when I got back.
After a day of sun, sand and surf, it was time to pack up and head for the Bonfire. It was quite the sight as we all sat around together watching the sun set and the fire light up the sky. Kate Smith’s voice could be heard on a nearby transistor radio singing, “God Bless America” and then John Philip Sousa’s “Stars and Stripes Forever” before it signed off for the day.
We rode home in the warm night followed by a full moon in the starlit sky. Dad usually smoked a pipe but every so often he enjoyed a good cigar and lit one up for the drive home. His after shave and cologne of choice was Old Spice, which had a nice scent, toning down the cigar smell. The ride home made me think of Norman Rockwell’s painting called, ‘Going and Coming’ of a family packed in their car on the way to a summer outing, happy and expectant with the father smoking a cigar and on their way home of the father looking exhausted while finishing off a cigar. Dad never looked tired going home, just very happy and content.
Making sense of budget numbers
Right now, the Whitman-Hanson Regional School District still does not have a budget, Superintendent of Schools Jeff Szymaniak said at the School Committee’s meeting on Wednesday, June 5.
He also responded to a rumor “floating around” – as well as the question of what happens if there is still no budget after Hanson’s special Town Meeting at 6:30 p.m., Monday, June 17.
“That’s a reality in our district, if we don’t have a budget by June 30, we now have to make some modifications, he said.
If the district has to report failure to reach a budget agreement by the new fiscal year on July 1, the Commissioner of Education will put the district on a 1/12 budget based on last year’s fiscal 2014 budget – at either the exact amount or over it.
“When the district went through the scenario in 2020, it was the exact amount for the month of July and, realistically for the School District, the month of July is not a fiscal crunch for us because our teachers are paid before they leave [in a fiscal ’24 scenario],” Szymaniak said. The next large pay period, under a fiscal 2024 budget is not until August.
But because it is about a $2.5 million deficit, Szymaniak must make sure, in the absence of a budget to prepare for the worst.
That means, if the district is still without a budget by August or September, he said he has to make sure the district has a plan to reduce the budget by $2.5 million – which is teachers.
“But, as I have reminded, if I have to Pink Slip, or RIF [Reduction in Force] teachers, I have to come up with 40 percent of their unemployment costs as of the day they are RIF’ed. So I have to look at the long game, and be prepared for a no-budget into August, September, October, November into December. In December, if I still don’t have a budget, the commissioner will give us a budget.”
That spending plan will be taken out of the towns’ hands and says, ‘This is your budget for the year,’” he said, as school starts up again in September.
“Looking at the numbers, he said [Whitman Finance Committee member Kathleen] Ottina was a little short on the number of RIFs that we’ll have to give out,], Szymaniak said. [See story page 11] The teachers’ contract says Reduction in Force letters should be out by May 30, if possible, and no later than June 30. Teachers leave for the summer on June 13 and Town Meeting is June 17.
“To try to avoid mass anxiety, because I’m optimistic that we’re going to pass a budget, because the School Committee has affirmed a budget without cuts,” he said. “We already know that.”
He said he has already crunched numbers and would try to get that information out to the staff by this week. The district had already posted six positions he’s wanted to fill from retirements and other such departures.
“But I’m not going to hire anybody if I don’t have a budget, so that reduces the RIF letters by six,” he said. A second tier of 26 WHEA members two central office and three district employees would receive RIFs because he has to come up with $3.3 million in cuts to cover the $2.5 million that might be real on a 1/12 budget, because of unemployment costs.
In that number, he took $540,000 [which is not set in stone, he stressed], asking the School Committee to not support varsity and sub-varsity sports and extracurriculars, which cost the district $538,000.
“That’s seven, eight or nine teachers that I don’t want to RIF at this point,” he said. “This is all hypothetical unless we don’t have a budget. But it could be real in August, if we don’t.”
He said he would not make the cuts unless the district ends up without a budget on June 17.
“It’s imperative for parents … to go to the meeting and talk,” he said. “I’m not telling you how to vote. Go to the meeting, at least and hear.”
If there is no budget by the end of the June 17 meeting, Szymaniak and Assistant Superintendent George Ferro will be sending out Reduction in Force letters on the morning of Tuesday, June 18.
“I don’t know where they are coming from,” he said, “But they are coming from classrooms, they’re coming from related arts, and it’s our first- and second-year staff members, or people that might even be a little bit more [veteran] if they’re a district-wide employee.”
Only staff in state-mandated roles would be safe from cuts.
Communicating cuts
“I’m trying to be as honest with the committee as possible, without [causing] as much fear to our staff members, but this is a reality if we push into late August,” he said.
Whitman has already voted an assessment and would not have to act again unless the committee decided to increase the assessment. If a super-Town Meeting, a session with both communities, is required, a majority vote would pass a budget, which could be in place as early as mid-July.
“July, I can cover money, but if we go into the middle of August because the towns voted the budget down, the commissioner takes over and then it could come back to the School Committee again,” Szymaniak said. “We keep doing that until we have a budget, or until the commissioner says, ‘You’re not where you should be,’ and he just assesses a budget to the regional school district.”
By law the commissioner’s options are to increase what was asked for by the committee.
Committee member Glen DiGravio said he is concerned about how badly a 1/12 budget could affect the students.
“If it goes in, we’ve got a problem,” Szymaniak said. “Because as people start leaving, it becomes problematic.” He said he is looking at options that are least impactful to the staff.
Information on the staff cuts is being supplied to the Hanson Select Board for their information and to distribute to voters.
“People need to know that,” DiGravio said. “These kids matter, and they don’t get a vote, either.”
DiGravio also asked if athletics could be cut completely, which Szymaniak said was possible, although he doesn’t want to have to.
“But it’s an option – people need to know that, too.” DiGravio said.
“This is not a reduction of the school district’s budget,” Szymaniak said, “I’m just won’t have a budget, so I can’t, as the superintendent, say, ‘I’m going to cut eight classroom teachers and have a football team.’ … It’s not a scare tactic.”
Member Dawn Byers said she wants to make clear what Hanson’s assessment will be – $14,974,735 – noting that if the motion at Hanson’s special Town Meeting is the number is to approve the amount presented at the May 6 Town Meeting, that is not the number the School Committee voted.
“It’s important to know what number is being voted on,” she said, noting that the School Committee made the number workable.
Member Fred Small moved that Szymaniak write a letter to Hanson officials clarifying the exact amounts to be included on the warrant and to get back to him in a timely manner.
Szymaniak vs
the rumor mill
As for the rumor – one of the questions he was asked at that meeting were about hiring 31 people with one-time money – was something he said needed to be clarified.
He met with the Hanson Select Board last month, and while they did not agree on a few things, an understanding of transportation reimbursement, of special education reimbursement costs, came up.
“I wasn’t planning on talking,” he said, but Town Administrator Lisa Green raised the opportunity to ask him questions. Hires with the use of ARPA funds was also raised at the meeting.
“Just because we have in and outs, doesn’t mean I’m adding positions,” he said. “Teachers have been in and out since 2021 – maternities, resignations, non-renewals, retirements – positions that have been created are the additional ones, but even through those additions, I’ve subtracted other ones.”
Over the course of the Elementary and Secondary School Relief (ESSER) Act, which Szymaniak said was a godsend in some respects, the funds became a curse as well.
“You’re handed a lot of money with specifications around it, how do you spend it without making it the fiscal cliff that we’ve spoken to?” he said. “And I knew, if I went home and turned back $2.5 million to the state or the fed because I couldn’t spend it, this committee or the members of the town would say, ‘You had $2.5 million to spend and you didn’t spend it?’ ‘:How can you do that?’”
He argued that the school district made really effective, efficient decisions to benefit the students. Some of those decisions were in the line of interventionists and English-language learning support.
Since 2021, the district began by hiring four interventionists, but that only had an impact of 2.5 positions funded in the budget, because they reallocated people within the district to fill those positions, he explained. An elementary education coordinator was added and has since left, with the district refurbishing the position as salary to a human resource director, which the school district has needed for years. At the same time the elementary ed coordinator position was reconfigured into a Multi-Tiered System of Supports (MTSS) and equity.
Five building-level math interventionists were also hired.
“A lot of these folks were teachers, who went into these roles, so we hired teachers on top of that,” he said. “That’s not a plus-10, that’s a plus-five.”
Another nurse was hired to address real needs, especially pre- and post- COVID, especially in the preschool and high school. There had been only one nurse at the high school and a nurse that had been promised after the closing of the Maquan School had never been hired.
A district-wide family liaison was also hired and has been a valuable member of the administrative team with the growing student population who speak another language. Six English-language staff members – both teachers and tutors – to ensure the schools are providing the increased English-language learners that is required by law.
Szymaniak referred to the English-language learning program to quash an accompanying rumor.
“We do not house migrants in Whitman,” he said. “These are our students. They live in our communities, they are not coming in from the state. It’s not from the governor. These are our students. People have asked, because I’ve seen it on social media,”
He said the population of non-English-speaking students has grown incrementally since 2021.
“We need to service students by law, and it’s the right thing to do.”
Committee member Rosemary Connolly stressed that Szymaniak had 15 positions he legally had to full in the district, but he had done so with only 11 additional positions.
“I think that’s pretty remarkable,” she said. “You, essentially, worked your numbers quite well.”
Hanson Committee member Kara Moser also pointed out that, when pink slips go out to staff is it is needed to balance the budget, it will not include the newer hires if they are among the state mandated positions in the schools.
“If people philosophically disagree with an added position on this list, voting it down is not eliminating that position,” she said.
Byers asked about the title interventionist.
“That’s sort of a modern-day tutor – a reading tutor/specialist, a math tutor/specialist, is that correct?” she asked.
Szymaniak said they are certified teachers. Before 2018 the district had reading specialists, they are now called interventionists, and added math to that service.
“People hear this new term and they wonder if this is just a result of COVID again, so we’re not in COVID anymore, so we don’t need this,” Byers said. “We’re now presenting an educational budget that includes what we should have had, pre-COVID.”
Szymaniak said it is sometimes difficult to fulfill state mandates, especially when they are unfunded, but credited the School Committee and the towns with helping to support district curriculum, such as all-day kindergarten, that should have been offered about 15 years ago.
Back on the topic of added district staff, he said the two high school music teachers who retired last year have been replaced by three – all funded by the salaries of the retired teachers. An afterschool coordinator hire was grant-funded.
Also, an occupational therapist was hired to aid all district students in need of the services that had been contracted out.
“Really, It’s a total of 18 new positions,” he said.
In fiscal 2025, the district has lost seven positions – including former facilities director Ernest Sandland, who retired, and a groundskeeper and was not hired – make a total of 11 new positions brought on district-wide, “all of whom are benefitting our students and that’s what you approved and are supporting going into this fiscal non-budget, right now, in the town of Hanson,” Szymaniak said.
“There might have been 31 – there might have been 40 people that have revolved through the district since 2012 – paraprofessionals are fluid,” Szymaniak said. “Special education paraprofessionals, I don’t count because [if] I have a student that needs a one-to-one, that’s an add, we don’t have a choice for that.”
He also hired a preschool teacher because the class for autism spectrum disorder (ASD) room was “busting at the seams” with pupils.
“That’s not a wish, that’s a need,” he said.
The state gave the district three rounds of ESSER money since 2021.
“We knew there was going to be a cliff [and] we worked in our office to try to massage the budget as best we could to make sure there wasn’t a $2.5 million end date, like some districts,” Szymaniak said, mentioning that they knew they would come up with a deficit this year, as they have.
Chair Beth Stafford said the number of “new hires” had started out at 35.
“We saw the result of doing this,” she said noting that district test scores are now “even better than before COVID. That’s our job here, the improvement of the kids.”
Vice Chair Hillary Kniffen said an error on the DESE website has people drawing incorrect class size information, as the site includes all personnel, with a degree in education to arrive at that number.
“If you are not in education – this is going to sound bad – but, you can’t go on the DESE website and think they know what information they’re trying to get across,” she said.
Szymaniak pointed to politics.
“If you actually showed 30:1 ratios in a school district, people would be all over the Department of Elementary and Secondary Education for more state funding for schools,” he said.
SST updates Whitman on building plan
WHITMAN – South Shore Tech Superintendent-Director Dr. Thomas J. Hickey briefed the Select Board on Tuesday, June 5, 2024 on the status of the new building plan and proposed amendment to the vocational school district’s regional agreement.
“It’s been a few months since December, when we had a public forum in this same room,” Hickey said, noting he would also discuss admissions. “Enrollment does support a lot of the conversation about … debt share, when it comes to a school building project, and also make mention that we are continuing to work on a regional agreement amendment that will also have a connection to the building project.”
The full presentation can be seen on the Whitman-Hanson Community Access TV YouTube channel, and on rebroadcast of the Select Board meeting on their cable channel.
Right now, the district is talking with the Dept. of Elementary and Secondary Education (DESE) – Chris Lynch and Michelle Griffin – working on language that would adjust the part of the regional agreement dealing with debt apportionment. It is now a fixed share based on whenever a debt is authorized.
“We’re looking to move it to a four-year rolling average, which would allow changes in debt share based in changes in enrollment, with not a lot of volatility,” Hickey said.
Select Board member Shawn Kain asked if Hickey was confident that would be the case.
“I’m confident that DESE would be onboard with it,” Hickey replied, saying he has heard “virtually nothing” in terms of obstacles to it.
“Whitman is in a very vulnerable situation,” said Kain who indicated he was glad to hear about the amendment. “That would be not a deal-breaker for me, but I would have a hard time supporting the project if the regional agreement wasn’t amended.”
“With Marshfield’s inaugural class of 29 students, that’s about 4 percent, so I’m going to project to you that even if this [number of students] were to remain fixed, which I don’t think it will, every community’s share will adjust down,” Hickey said. “If we factor in a declining enrollment on top of bringing on a ninth community, we should see some relief for communities that feel like they’re at a high water mark for enrollment.”
Whitman’s position
He said there are 43 Whitman students graduating in the Class of 2024, with 31 in the incoming freshman class out of 70 applicants from the town. Whitman’s initial allotment if 20 new applicants and 11 from the school’s waiting list, Hickey explained, with a projection that the high demand will remain even as the town’s lower enrollment share continues over the next three years due to new seats provided to other towns such as Marshfield, which is in the process of joining the SST district and the size of the current school building.
“We have very strong demand from the community,” he said of the 70 applications this year. “Whitman is apportioned a number of seats based on the size of their eighth-grade population – and they fill those in a nanosecond – and then there are other seats from communities that don’t use all their seats.”
Historically, the waiting list consists of Whitman, Rockland and Abington students. Debt-share is tied to enrollment. So, without a revision of the regional agreement, Whitman would stay at about 25 percent, and would be responsible for that share of debt, but that debt level would decrease with a rolling admission, Whitman’s share could drop to, perhaps, 12 percent, decreasing the town’s debt.
“I would be saying the same thing if I were speaking to folks in Rockland, or in Abington, or Hanson, as well,” he said of the other large sending communities.
“Oct. 1 reports, as you well know are the official reports,” Hickey said. “Things can change, but I think we’re in the infield of the ballpark in terms of making a projection.”
He said the fiscal 2026 budget, in regard to just the operating assessment, the general track record for the district has been that, absent a large capital budget, a decrease in enrollment generally means a decrease in the operating assessment.
“I support the project,” Kain said. “I think this is badly needed, I think you do a very good job, I love the numbers. I do have a concern about the regional agreement, but it seems its being taken care of – but this is a big nut to take one.”
MSBA project
The preferred new construction option carries an estimated total cost of $283 million with the current estimated MSBA reimbursement at $107 million with the member towns dividing the remaining $176 million apportioned by enrollment. If that is rejected the estimated total cost for renovation, including major code upgrades is at $110 million with no funding from MSBA.
“I’m very careful to point out that [in the renovation option] this is not something that’s going to happen immediately,” Hickey said, noting that officials have heard the code upgrade warnings before in other school projects. “We’re still talking millions, we’re still talking who can fit these costs under the levy limit.”
He is expecting firmer numbers by August.
“The school roof is not going to fall in if this project fails,” he said. “I’m not going to advertise doom and gloom fait acompli, it’s going to be changed. But I do want to map out a five-to-seven-year sequence where, if either path were to happen, where would we be in 2030?”
The district is now in the middle of the schematic design phase, looking at a deadline of mid-August for the project team to finalize it for submission to the Massachusetts School Building Authority (MSBA) by the end of that month. The district envisions being before the MSBA board for their approval on Oct. 30.
“That will be the first day that we can say, without qualification or an asterisk, that, ‘This is the project budget. This is how much the grant is,’” he said. But, by August they should able to closely estimate the project cost. Over the summer, any written updates Hickey said he could provide would involve adjustments to the schematic design.
After the MSBA, the district will be preparing for a Jan. 25, 2025 district-wide ballot question, in which two-thirds of the member towns – six of the nine – would have to vote to support the project for it to move ahead.
“A separate matter that each community will have to take up would be how the project gets funded, if it is approved,” Hickey said. For most communities that would involve a debt exclusion.
Deeper design work would then be done.
Kain asked about any push-back on the ballot question, to which Hickey said he has heard no negative feedback.
“Everybody’s enrollment changes at some point, and with an adjustment in enrollment, it affects operating assessments,” he said, adding that the age of the building, constructed in 1960, the language of the regional agreement was drafted just to build the school in the first place. It had already been amended twice in the last seven years alone.
Hickey said he was not aiming for a school building that makes the cover of Architectural Digest.
“We don’t want people paying a lot of money for a cardboard box, we want something efficient,” he said. “If we’re going to put money into this, it’s got to be into the specialized educational spaces. It’s a very simple design, easy for supervision.”
Town Administrator Mary Beth Carter pointed to Gov. Maura Healey’s Empowerment Act, which could extend borrowing on such projects out to 40 years.
“I don’t really like the thought of going out 40 years, but on these huge projects it would make a big difference,” she said.
“If that weren’t on the books at the time that we’re making this move, I would hope that we could advocate for it – that the legislation would reflect our ability to readjust for it,” Hickey said. “It’s definitely on my radar.”
Parent group boosts SST students, programs
HANOVER – South Shore Tech School Committee honored its Parents Association during the Wednesday, May 22 School Committee meeting, for their “exceptional commitment to SST programs every school year.”
“It is with great pleasure that we recognize their outstanding contributions and to express our gratitude for their unwavering support for all things South Shore Tech,” said Principal Sandra Baldner. “Their tireless efforts and dedication have made significant impacts the success of our students and their well-being.”
She was joined by Erin Venuti, who spoke for the group and Cynthia Ortiz, Karen Burgio and Jessica Franceschini, both of Hanson and Leigh Gilcoine joined her at the meeting. The Parents’ Association works to make the school a positive and inclusive environment for both students and parents.
Venuti’s daughter is graduating this year, so she is stepping down from the Parents’ Association, but has been asked to serve as parent liaison with the School Building Committee.
Throughout the school year, the association puts in “endless hours of volunteer work,” advocacy of positive communication throughout SST, resourcefulness and collaborations with all members of the school community, according to Baldner.
“Their ability to bring people together and work toward common goals has been invaluable,” she said. “Their unwavering support and commitment have made a significant difference in the lives of our students and in the overall success of our school.”
Baldner said they could often be seen “lugging SST gear” from car to car and event to event, rain or shine, year after year. She also said she values the association as a working mom because he work at SST does not give her the time to volunteer with her children’s vocational school program.
Acting Parents’ Association President Erin Venuti offered some highlights of the current members time volunteering for SST students and programs.
Venuti said she joined when she heard Hickey speak of no fees for sports or athletics and giving every student a chance to participate.
“I don’t know if he realizes the impact that those particular things, and funding those opportunities really do have on our student body,” she said. “Through the course of that, I ended up here.”
Venuti said her running joke is that it’s like [The Eagle’s hit] ‘Hotel California’ – you can check in, but you can never leave.” To demonstrate how that is true for her, she said she is transitioning to her new department, to work with Hickey as a parent liaison on the new School Building Committee.
“This has been one of our most successful years,” she said, underscoring Baldner’s comments. “One of the most important things we looked at was bringing back an in-person community event.”
That led to member Cynthia Ortiz suggesting and given free rein on what became one of the most successful fundraisers ever – a singo event at Players Restaurant in Auburn. This year, there were a couple more – signature T-shirts for sale to support mental health awareness and suicide prevention at the annual car show. This year’s first-edition T-shirt sales brought in more than $4,000 from the sale for mental health and suicide prevention programs.
Students in the Graphic arts shop design them and teachers vote on which one to produce each year.
“That was one of my main aims to leave the school with, because it was very important and a very passionate project of mine,” she said.
Among the uses funds raised by the association are a monthly teacher appreciation coffee and pastry event and new sideline chairs provided for the gym for the use of volleyball and basketball games. They also purchased a new camera for the Graphics Department to use for producing the yearbook. They also continue the annual awards program to help support any student going on to higher education, or for specialized tools needed for their trades.
“But we wanted things that could transition into a new building,” Venuti said. “We don’t want to spend money on something that’s not going to stay. The sideline chairs can transition to the gym and really did make the kids feel special and people know, when they come to the gym, they are at South Shore Tech. They know our colors. They know our logo.”
The association is also bringing back the Class events, starting with the Class of 2024 – sponsoring the lawn signs given free of charge to the families of each graduating senior, bottled water for graduations in hot weather, shop cords for cap and gown ensembles, senior breakfast and senior lunch, the annual students’ civics project and leaving each sports team with a kick-start to help them fund raise. Smaller requests often come in from school administration for which the association tries to help as well as a $500 donation to SkillsUSA.
“The outgoing graduates lost a lot to COVID,” she said. “These were things we all agreed we need to bring back to make sure they feel they are leaving school on a positive note and not just leaving.”
She concluded by reminding the meeting that the Parents’ Association is “not a one-man-band.”
“It is all of us, together,” she said. “There are no titles. We’re all equal – we all talk the same, we all express the same. … We are all involved in the community, we are all selling the same story, the positive community atmosphere.”
Hanson voters reject override
The next round of school budget negotiations should go this well, but judging by the sentiment among Select Board members, it’s not likely.
Voters in Hanson soundly rejected the override with no votes winning the day 821 to 522. While Whitman’s Town Meeting voted to use free cash to bridge the gap in the school district’s assessment, 361 people voted for the override and 883 voted against. Whitman voters also rejected a ballot question supported by their Select Board to change the treasurer-collector’s position to an appointed one instead of an elected one, by a vote of 830 to724.
Assistant Town Clerk Michael Ganshirt said 422 people voted early via absentee ballot or about 45 percent of the 1,200 ballots mailed out. Hanson saw 500-plus mail-in and 116 early voters of the 1,471 eligible voters go to the polls for early voting in the election. There are 8,477 registered voters in Hanson.
In Whitman 16 percent – 1,771 – of the town’s 11,000 registered voters cast ballots.
“I hope I win,” Salvucci said that morning. “I’m never confident, until I [see the result].” He said that, win or lose, he wanted to remain in the post as liaison to South Shore Tech, a position not always held by a Select Board member.
Select Board member Ann Rein, who was the top vote-getter among candidates in the race for two seats on the board, has been a vocal opponent of the override and school budget in general.
She has been “totally against the override.”
“I want the school department to be held to the fire,” Rein said while sign-holding at the polls Saturday morning. “I’m ‘sick and tired about them bullying us into doing what they want. No. If we have to cut, they have to cut.”
Frank Milisi, who finished out of the win column for Select Board said there was no purpose of it to pass at this point, anyway.
“It’s not worth the fight to pass it,” he said.
Second-place vote-getter Joe Weeks also predicted the override would fail.
“I think the town is in a position now, where things are tight and services and costs are going up,” he said. “I have a feeling that, that’s going to impact people’s votes,” he said. “I do think we have to do a better job of some education around it because, I think if people understood why some of these overrides and what [they] mean for the bigger picture are in terms of longer-term savings, I think we’ll have a better idea a positive vote.”
But there was a note of positivity among the Select Board candidates themselves.
As Hanson Town Clerk Elizabeth read out the voting results and candidates with calculators handy added up the numbers that returned incumbents Ann Rein and Joe weeks to the Select Board, a spirit of bipartisanship was evident.
“You deserved it,” Weeks told challenger Frank Milisi more than once, incredulous that he had won. Weeks had said earlier in the day that he felt the result would be tight and voter turnout might hold the key.
“I am so proud of you, and – to be honest with you – you were better than me,” Weeks said, shaking Milisi’s hand at one point. “Honestly, I did not expect that result. You deserved it.”
Weeks persisted in saying Milisi was deserving of a win, as a handful of people double-checked the numbers, confirming what Milisi had first determined – that Weeks had, indeed been the winner.
“You deserved it,” Weeks said a few more times. “I’m blown away by this. It did not expect it.”
“You could have said that two weeks ago,” Milisi joked, adding with a laugh, “I’m going to have to go around with your recall petition now.”
“You probably would,” Weeks replied.
Select Board Chair Laura FitzGerald-Kemmett said both ran a good race in an election with a relatively good turnout.
“Somebody’s got to lose, unfortunately,” she said.
Weeks had just pulled in 731 votes to win re-election by a total of 731 to 683. Weeks did better with early voters and Milisi edged him on in-person votes. Rein, also an incumbent pulled in a first-place vote count or 833, also doing slightly better in early votes than with in-person voters.
There were 31 blanks and scattered write-in votes.
“I knew I was going to get smoked today,” Weeks said of Saturday’s in-person voting, but his 286 to 189 edge in early voting had made the difference.
“I honestly thought you and Ann were going to run away with it, I really did,” Weeks said to Milisi. “I don’t believe it. I want to see the numbers. I did not expect to win.”
The candidates also said they enjoyed being “tent mates” as the three Select Board candidates shared two pop-up tents to shelter against the day’s persistent drizzle.
“This whole time, it’s been not bashing each other and just going off and figuring out the ideas and let people decide make out the difference,” Milisi said.
“Well, there’s a difference between not bashing people and acknowledging that people are doing a good job,” Weeks said.
Rein had expressed confidence in the outcome that morning.
“I’m hopeful,” she said. “I think we’re going to be OK.”
Both Milisi and Weeks said Rein was worthy of being the top vote-getter in the field.
“Although I am disappointed with the result of the election, I cannot be happier for Ann and Joe, both are great candidates with whom I have enjoyed working with in other capacities,” Milisi said in a statement later. “The Town of Hanson was offered another point of view and set of ideas this election, and I still believe in those ideas I laid out during the campaign.”
He said his immediate plans involved returning to work at Camp Kiwanee Commission and the Capital Improvement Committee.
“I would like to thank every voter, taxpayer, and resident whom I spoke with during the campaign,” he said. “The town of Hanson has some financially rough years ahead of us, and I will do the best I can to assist the board in any way possible.”
In Whitman, Select Board candidates, incumbent Dan Salvucci and challenger Kathleen Ottina were out holding signs early in the morning, also expressing cautious optimism in the job they did getting their message to the voters.
“To all the Whitman voters who came out for the May 18th town election to cast their vote for the candidates of their choice thank you,” he said in a statement about the outcome.” When the numbers were read by Whitman’s Town Clerk and when we knew who the winner was, we greeted each other and congratulated each other on running a clean race.”
While falling short of her goal by only 57 votes, Ottina offered Salvucci congratulations after the results were read that she appreciated the support she received.
“Your support was encouraging,” she said in a statement. “I especially want to thank the people who kindly hosted my lawn sign, the wonderful supporters who braved the elements to stand out near the polls holding signs, and my terrific family and friends who worked so hard to help me. I appreciate you all so much.”
Ottina said she plans to continue her work on the Whitman Finance Committee to “advocate for sound financial decisions that benefit all Whitman citizens, especially those who are too young to vote.”
Before taking a break from sign-holding that morning, she was philosophical about the outcome.
“I worked as hard as I could,” Ottina said. “The voters will decide, but I would be proud and privileged to serve the Town of Whitman as a member of the Select Board.”
“I think we’re going to end up with a Super Town Meeting, which should be very interesting,” Salvucci said.
School Committee candidate Rosemary Connolly said she believed she was able to inform the public.
“I hope the public sees that they have other options out there,” she said. “Options that are knowledgeable about educational funding.”
She ended the day as the top vote-getter in the three-way race for two seats on the School Committee, with incumbent Fred Small garnering 963 and third-place finisher Kevin Mayer with 778.
Hanson’s School Committee race had three candidates vying for a single seat.
Kara Moser to the final contested office of the day, winning a School Committee seat to replace Michelle Bourgelas, who opted not to run again. Moser was the top vote-getter in that race with 520 votes, to Christine Cohen’s 431 and Barbara Connolly’s 293. There were 4 blanks.
Whitman board reviews Town Meeting
WHITMAN – The Select Board spent time taking stock of the events at Town Meeting the night before at its Tuesday, May 7 meeting and what lies ahead in reaching consensus on a fiscal 2025 school budget.
Select Board member Shawn Kain said he had done some reflecting after the Monday, May 6 annual Town Meeting.
“I was up late thinking, and I think the thing that is throwing me off and had me worried was, when they last had the April 8 School Committee meeting, there was some good discussion that was had,” he said, noting Chair Beth Stafford’s reference to the meeting school and select board representatives had together. “You had a good discussion, you talked about the override, you talked about the need for a smaller override, and it sounded like … there was a plan that was kind of made, and that’s kind of what she presented to the School Committee.”
During that School Committee meeting there was also discussion about how the school assessment would be split between budgets and the override.
“When I left the meeting, after everyone voted in favor for it, I thought, going into last night’s meeting, that the School Committee was going to support the small override,” Kain said. “So, I was a little bit thrown off when they didn’t.”
He said it occurred to him about halfway through the Town Meeting that it wasn’t going to work as a result of the division.
“I definitely felt some tension,” he said.
He said when the intent was for the towns and school district to step forward together to actively support getting the override to the ballot, when School Committee members not only acted counter to that, but also actively spoke out against it and school district officials were “very quiet about it” he found himself wondering how the plan could be implemented. Hanson did not pass the override for the same reason.
There was, in fact, no debate over the override in Hanson outside of School Committee member Hillary Kniffen explaining a procedural point.
“The best chance we had to increase educational funding was through an override,” Kain said. “Hanson’s in a much worse financial situation than we are, so for people in our community to be undermining the override … is worrisome for me. … What happens next?”
While healthy debate is good for the town, he said, and lauded the “impressive political move” the Finance Committee made, which changed the direction of the way things went. But he also expressed concern that, since they were able to do that, “it really undermined our ability to increase educational funding, which was ultimately the goal.”
Kowalski said the School Committee had made it clear they were not voting for an override so much as a change in the assessment.
“But it was clear, also that the plan was to cover that drop in assessment with a small override,” Kowalski said. “That was clear. But it shouldn’t be construed that they voted for it. … We’re the ones that have to put an override on the warrant – and we did.”
Other than that one correction, Kowalski said he agreed with everything Kain had to say.
“What I liked about the plan that had a small override in it was that it … lifts our floor for every year to come in a small way,” he said. “It’s going to be stressful.”
Select Board member also Laura Howe agreed with Kain’s concerns.
“I found it very disheartening, how divided we became,” she said. “Not of our own free will, but suddenly, I felt we were all outcasts, and a town cannot run divided.”
Discussing the news and information bubbles into which people sort themselves, Howe said that situation creates fear.
“When people get afraid, they lash out,” she said. “So I didn’t so much mind that they thought we were distrustful … I hope people will reach out [to town leaders]. Everyone is approachable. … There is no good or bad guy, there’s no winner or loser. This is our community.”
She said she felt town officials could bridge that division because they are “all strong leaders that love this town.”
Both Howe and Kowalski also lauded Select Board member Justin Evans for hissocial media posts in an effort to keep residents informed leading up to Town Meeting.
In other business, the Select Board voted to accept the sale of the town’s up to $20 million principal amount of general obligation building bonds and to execute the necessary documents.
“There are a number of votes to take,” said Chair Dr. Carl Kowalski, who read what the votes were before a single vote was taken at the end covering all of them:
- $19,070,000 general obligation building bonds to TD Securities USA, LLC at the price of $20,123,010.85 and accrued interest, if any. Bonds are payable annually on May 15 beginning in 2025 in the principal and bear interest rates for each year, changing as the years go on;
- Marketing and sale of the bonds, the prepaparation and and distribution of notice and sale and preliminary official statement;
- The bond is subject to redemption at the option of the town upon terms and conditions within the official statement;
- Town Treasurer and Select Board will be and are authorized to execute and deliver a continuing disclosure undertaking and compliance with SEC rules in a form approved by town counsel;
- Authorizing and directing the treasurer to establish post-issuance federal tax compliance and continuing disclosure procedures in the forms deemed sufficient by the treasurer and bond counsel and to review those procedures if they are already in place in order to monitor and maintain the tax-exempt status of the bonds;
- Any certificates or documents related to the bonds may be executed in several counterparts each regarded as an original (this vote also approved signing and mailing procedures);
- Electronic siguatures will be deemed original signatures; and
- Authorizes the each member of the Select Board, Town Clerk and town treasurer to take any and all actions to exercise and deliver certificates, receipts or other documents determined necessary to carry into effect the provisions of the votes.
Hanson energy program sparks questions
HANSON – While questions remain in the community about the town’s energy aggregation program, which begins later this month, town officials and representatives of the energy consultants are working on answering them.
The town’s Energy Committee held an informational session on the Community Power program on Monday, April 22 at the Hanson Police Station Community Room, as well as an online meeting Thursday, May 2 and another in-person session at the Hanson Senior Center, Thursday, May 9.
In 2021, Hanson residents in Town Meeting voted to allow the town to explore a municipal energy aggregate program, which is designed to provide savings on electric bills for residents who are now National Grid customers, according to Town Administrator Lisa Green, who introduced the April 22 meeting.
Hanson contracted with Good Energy to guide the town through the steps of the two-year process to set up the aggregate program, including submitting data to the state Department of Public Utilities (DPU) to obtain its approval. Once provisional acceptance was issued, the town had to make adjustments to achieve full approval from the DPU, which was received this spring.
During that phase, energy supply companies made bids on their kilowatt hourly rates.
Direct Energy, which provided the lowest bid, was selected and an agreement was signed with the town.
“The town itself has a similar agreement with a company called Sprague Energy,” Green said. “It gives the town lower costs, and the town has seen [more than] $42,000 in savings in both our natural gas and electricity costs over the last four years.”
Energy Committee Chair Marianne DiMascio and representatives from Good Energy also attended the meeting to provide more information and answer questions.
DiMascio is designed to be a five-member committee that was named after Town Meeting passed the aggregate energy article, noting the panel was down a member and putting in a plug for the process of joining, should anyone be interested.
Select Board member Ed Heal, James Armstrong and John Murray also sit on the Energy Committee.
Rachel Ferdinand, program manager for Hanson with Good Energy, gave an informational program for those at the meeting, which can be streamed on Whitman-Hanson Community Access TV’s website – at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irTByt-DmIE.
“This program is a way for the town to offer different [energy] supply options,” Ferdinand said. “This will only affect the supply portion of your bill.”
In fact, savings and support of renewable energy options in the area are Good Energy’s main goals, she said. While National Grid’s rate changes every six months may mean periods when there are few savings, Ferdnand stressed that “over the course of the 30-month term, we are expecting to see savings across the board.”
The program officially begins in June 2024 for a 30-month contract with Direct Energy. National Grid will still be the billing company and should still be contacted in the event of outages. At the end of 30 months, the town will decide whether or not to continue the program and, if it decides to continue, it would repeat the competitive bid process to find a new supplier.
“We’ll never just change the price on you,” Ferdinand said.
Three program options are available:
- Standard – the one most people join. It adds 10 percent renewable among its energy sources and costs 13.692 cents per kilowatt hour.
- Basic – with no renewable sources and a price of 13.280 cents pre kWh.
- Plus – adds voluntary renewable energy to a total of 100 percent at 14.738 cents per kWh.
“It is completely voluntary to be in this program,” she said. “There’s never going to be a fee to opt out of the program … but if you do join it will differ based on who your supplier is right now.”
National Grid’s basic residential service, by comparison, costs 18.213 cents per kWh and includes no additional renewable energy sources.
Renewable sources include wind and solar and are local to the New England region.
Those eligible for automatic enrollment would start at standard first, Ferdnand said.
Supplier services will be listed on page two of energy bills.
Residents eligible for automatic enrollment should be receiving letters about it and, if they take no action, will be enrolled in the standard product category in June.
Those not wanting to be in the program may opt out when they receive their letter but must do so by May 18. One can still leave the program after that date, but it will show up on bills until the change is made.
One resident said he believed he was already in the program after receiving his letter.
“I’m saving money right now,” he said.
Residents can also make their preference online at hansoncommunitypower.com. Direct Energy can also be called at 866-968-8065. It is a good idea to have your bill handy if you plan to opt out or make changes to the program because information on the bill, such as account number, will be asked for.
Those already in a contract with a third-party supplier should consult their provider in case there is a fee for changing that contract.
“There’s never going to be a fee with us to join, but it’s important to know the ins and outs of your contract,” Ferdinand said.
Good Energy has been reaching out to residents by letter, postcard, social media, brochures and news articles.
One resident asked about fees. Outside of the usual National Grid delivery fees, Direct Energy will not add new fees to bills.
Customers receiving credits for solar panels from National Grid, which still handles billing, will not see any change in those credits. National Grid will also continue to be responsible for addressing power outages.
There is no connection between the program and the municipal budget.
The aggregate program will not affect the performance of oxygen machines or generators.
Hanson: Replace your divots
The Hanson Select Board on Tuesday, April 23, approved, contingent on some final changes, a modified road opening permit application process, mainly geared toward utility companies who must open the road surface for repairs.
Town Administrator Lisa Green explained that the town has had a road opening permit application process on file for many years, but that she had never actually seen the form until Interim Highway Director Curt McLean had brought one in to discuss the changes he’s looking for.
“He realized that there are quite a few improvements that could be made that would better serve the town, and be a better watchdog for the town, so companies put the roads back in the condition that they found them in – or make them better,” Green said.
The permits govern what companies seeking to open the roadway pavement to make repairs and must be applied for through the Highway Department.
“I’ve noticed some of the utilities are, I’ll say inconsistent and, perhaps, not as judicious as we’d like them to be, about sealing things back up after they’ve torn everything up,” Chair Laura FitzGerald-Kemmett said.
The application is more extensive, at eight or nine pages compared to the page or two of the past, McLean said.
“This here really holds companies to the gun, that when they’re done, they will restore the road – full width – and basically come in and mill the road an inch and a half, and then repaving an inch and a half,” which is the Highway Director’s responsibility to check.
“East Washington is kind of a disaster area,” he said about recent work there. “[It’s] understandable, they did a lot of work. … Now we have to do a refurbishment of the whole road. The gas company is putting money forth toward that. Is it enough? No.”
He said this policy will prevent that in the future.
The gas utility is now looking to do 2,800 feet on West Washington Street, with the policy in place, they would have to refurbish the whole, roadway where they are working.
Green said town counsel has not yet reviewed it.
“Thank you for taking the initiative to point out something we could do better,” FitzGerald said, noting a legal review would be prudent.
Vice Chair Weeks asked if the new policy has been reviewed with a fine-tooth comb to make sure there are no contradictions within it.
“How do you hold someone’s feet to the fire?” he said, asking how the town’s interests are protected.
FitzGerald-Kemmett said there are enough checks and balances in it that the policy update is a definite improvement.
“I’m not saying the questions negate the pros that this brings,” Weeks said. “We’ve been burned a couple of times … and we’re still kind of paying the price for [that]. … I feel a lot more comfortable if someone internally is the one who’s signing off on it.”
Weeks asked Green if he could send a list of items for town counsel to check, to which she agreed.
They have to apply for the permit, McLean stressed of the construction companies, adding that the Highway Director is the one who is going to be checking on the process of how the road repairs are made.
“If they don’t abide by it, good luck getting another permit in town,” McLean said.
FitzGerald-Kemmett also wanted to see fees, which are now doubled, to be increased to protect the town.
“If you’re coming to seek forgiveness and not permission on something like opening up our roads, I don’t think just doubling a $100 fee is very punitive at all,” FitzGerald-Kemmett said.
Ed Heal asked if the mention of West Washington Street meant there was a time-sensitive issue.
McLean said it is a little time-sensitive, because the work there is being considered for a start in early May.
In other business the Select Board, which had voted to seek ARPA funds to pay for a new ambulance during a recent meeting, heard an update Green on the effort to obtain that funding.
She said she has completed the grant application and submitted it, but a grant agreement is required, which the board had to approve and sign it so she can submit it to the Plymouth County Commissioners.
The board also has the issue as an article on the May 6 Town Meeting warrant.
The process through which the Select Board processes reapplications of former Planning Board members that had been part of a recent investigation was also clarified by the board.
“We’ve had a couple of people in the past who, either we chose not to appoint to the ZBA or we chose to remove from the ZBA, seeking to be reappointed to the ZBA,” FitzGerald-Kemmett said. “Is it the will of the board to entertain those applications?
She noted that previously, when the board discussed the issue, it had centered on an individual who had been removed from the ZBA after a hearing and unanimous decision that the board did not want to “exhume that body,” she said, and go through that whole process again, because they had already made a decision.
She asked if the board had the same feeling about such situations now.
“My opinion hasn’t changed,” Board member Ann Rein said.
“We’re not putting that band back together,” FitzGerald Kemmett asked.
“Right,” Rein replied.
“It makes sense [to ask],” Weeks said. “Every time there’s a new board we [should] circle back to this, because the will of a previous board might not be the will of the current board. As long as there’s a status check every once in a while, I think that’s the fairest way to do it.”
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